Are You Living In or Renting a Private Property in Thailand to Foreigners?
Or simply have a someone staying in your property that is not a Thai national?
If so, you need to be aware of a law that has existed in Thailand for quite a while and applies to everyone who provides accommodations to foreigners.
While this law has been on the books for years, the enforcement of it has now been expanded to include properties which are not classified as hotels.
The law in question is called TM30. It is a section of the Thai Immigration laws that refers to accommodations of foreigners residing on Thai soil.
The law states that all properties not just Chiang Mai Properties that have non-Thai nationals living on their premises must register them with the immigration department.
The recent enforcement comes partly in the wake of the worldwide increase in terrorism. The Thai government is cooperating with Interpol and other international police forces in putting a halt to terrorists who have long seen Thailand as a relatively safe place to hide out.
This law was originally designed to increase the amount of monitoring and surveillance that Thai authorities can exercise on foreigners residing in their country, whether they’re on holiday or here on a permanent, residential basis.
The system was also designed to be useful to the government in gathering data on tourism.
At the same time, the immigration department saw it as an opportunity to crack down on the number of foreigners who have over-stayed their visas (as well as their welcome) and were working here illegally.
Expansion of the Law
Recently, there has been an announcement by the government that is making a stir in the comment posts of Thai property websites.
The enforcement of the TM30 law has now been expanded to include those who are not covered by the definitions of the hotel act, but who are offering accommodations to foreign nationals nonetheless.
The law has actually been in effect for many years now and works along with the hotel act of 2005. When a foreigner on holiday checks into a hotel, the proprietor must make a copy of their passport details, their visa and their TM card. This information must then be forwarded to the immigration department.
In recent years this system has been updated so the proprietors can register their guests with immigration via an online registration system.
Who Has to Register the TM30?
When it was originally written, the hotel act specifically excluded properties having less than four rooms for rent from having to apply for a hotel license in order to operate.
This allowed private properties consisting of condominiums, homes and guest houses falling under the required number of rooms to avoid the expense and trouble of applying for a hotel license. It also exempted them from having to obey other provisions of the Hotel Act which were designed for the hotel business and didn’t really apply to them.
The lack of enforcement meant that virtually nobody except hoteliers knew that the law applied to everyone providing accommodations to foreigners.
This has all changed. Under the new expanded law, this non-enforcement loophole has been closed and anyone who offers accommodations must register their foreign guests with the immigration department.
Ongoing non-compliance can be costly for the private property owner. Fines are around 1,600 Baht for every instance of non-registration and can add up quickly as guests come and go.
Long-term tenants usually find out they have not been registered when they pop down to immigration to do their 90-day check in, or a visa renewal. So, if you’re on good terms with your landlord and want to avoid trouble for both you and them, you might want to warn them before you make your next trip to immigration.
Question = Do you have to register if you have the Thai Elite Visa?
Answer = Yes sorry. You still need to register.
Who is responsible for registering the person living on the premises?
Property owners in Thailand must register all Non-Thai Nationals living in their property.
Let’s put it this way, it’s the owner that will be fined, so the overall responsibility is with the owner. Many condominiums in Chiang Mai and Thailand, in general, will take responsibility for registering new tenants as they have access to an online system and they can complete the registration very easily.
Then again, there is a good number of less “foreigner-orientated’ condos that do not wish to get involved and will push it back on to the owners of the individual units or the property manager.
Either way, this can have consequences to the tenant as the tenant may be faced with having to prove to an Immigration officer where they have been all the time that they’ve been in Thailand. So, it’s important that your landlord keep the registration paperwork up-to-date. Even though they will be the ones fined, you’ll be the one with some explaining to do.
For houses and condos, the responsibility lies with the home-owner to register a non-Thai national staying on the premises within 24 hours of the time of their arrival with the local immigration office.
When dealing with rental homes in general it is the owner that will be entirely responsible as they are the only ones that can apply for an online login username and password. Once they have these, they can simply logon and register all new guests and tenants.
Even listing your property with a property rental agency does not absolve you of responsibility. If the agency does not follow through on the registration of guests that they rent your property to, you will be charged with the fine.
How Can Home and Condominium Owners Register?
There are 3 ways that the home and condominium owner can register his tenants and temporary guests.
1. The easiest thing to do is to apply online. The property owner will apply for a username and password that will allow them to login easily and register any guests or tenants that are staying on the property. The biggest drawback is that the online system is still very temperamental and it’s often the case that once applied they will not receive their login credentials. If you’re using the online system, it’s important that you receive a confirmation of the registration. (Online Site is down – Currently, there is no answer as to when it will be back up and running)
2. Another way is to simply register in person. There is a form called the TM30 form that you can download here. The home owner or property manager has the tenant or guest fill out the form then they file the form in-person with the immigration office. Download ( Tm30 Form Part 1) (TM30 Form Part 2) – Microsoft Word Format
3. The in-person registration can also be done by the tenants of guests in person at the immigration office. The tenants/guests on the property submitting the TM30 document at the immigration office will also need a signed proxy from the owner stating that he/she gives permission for the tenants/guests to act on their behalf. Download (TM30 Proxy Form) Microsoft Word Format
Please note that every individual staying on the property needs to be registered, not one per household. Basically, anyone that needed a visa to stay in Thailand needs to be registered.
Once I Have Registered My TM30, Is That It?
That’s it unless you like to travel. If you don’t travel around and just stay at the premises you are registered at then you won’t have any issues. Your registration does not expire. As soon as you leave the country, even for a few days, you must re-register on your return.
If you stay in a hotel/guest house within Thailand, then you’ve re-registered in a different location. Once you return to your primary location in Thailand you have to re-register in that location again.
If you are a frequent travel and you’re living in accommodation that does not have access or does not use the online system, then it would be highly advisable to ask the owner for pre-signed proxies for the property for yourself and anyone else staying with you.
Do I need to register everyone staying at the property? Yes. Everyone staying at the property must register, there is the second form for adding multiple people to the property if you are doing it at immigration.
Do I need to register if I am living in my own home? Yes. If you are a foreign national and own your home in Thailand, you must register your occupancy.
Do I need to re-register if I have been out of the country for a couple of days? Whenever you leave the country, you must re-register upon your return.
Do I need to register if I have been on holiday and stayed at another hotel/guest house? Yes. The owner of the hotel/guest house will have registered you as a guest of the hotel/guest house. Once you return to your primary place of residence in Thailand, you must re-register.
Please copy and paste this link into your browser. https://tm30.immigration.go.th/
It sometimes shows as a virus or not going through but this is the link we use to register online.
Having trouble explaining the TM30 regulations to a Thai person. This is the Thai Version of this TM30 article here.
Please remember that we love to hear your comments, questions, and experiences in the comments section below!
Think the TM30 Is a good idea? Have your say here!
Thai Video to Help Explain to Your Landlord?
FAQ about TM30
Sure, here’s the link to the TM30 online registration system: [https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/?sessionExpire=true]
Disclaimer: These FAQs are meant to serve merely as guidance and Perfect Homes cannot be held responsible for any inacuracies.
181 thoughts on “TM30 Explained! You Must Register Any Non Thai National Living In Your Property! (Updated OCTOBER 2023)”
Thank you for this info, I just wished you had written it earlier it could of saved me the troubles I had with my owner as I had left the country and came back, but did not know I had to re-register.
The owner refused to pay the fine as he had registered me previously and I had not informed him that I had been to Vietnam.
As they say, You Live and Learn!
Sorry, but we hope it is not too late for many others.
Remember every immigration office is different so some will be more relaxed than others!
I have a TM30 Reciept with my wife duahgter and myself listed as resident
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This is an ill thought out system but has beeb the LAW since 1979
What an incompetent lot they are
What does all this crazy post have to do with the Re-register…stop bulling us with you private racist ideas
Well Reiner,
Its time you open your eyes to see the truth of the posting. Your remarks has nothing to do with the Re-register too. Andine posting give facts, yours is just a sorry snowflake crying over spilled milk.
Respectfully, Reiner, it’s not racist because Islam is not a race. She speaks the truth. Most who watch their versions of the mainstream media will never hear anything about it because they’re covering it up. Oh yeah, it’s really happening and those caught with their heads in the sand will have a painful awakening. Be well.
Scott, you are splitting hairs, but can call it bigotry and hate if not racism. To Andine Tupalska, you are a sick person and need psychiatric treatment. You are the very definition of human ignorance and ugliness. What are you thinking when you post this vile garbage? That you are impressing someone? We are impressed with the depth of your depravity, far beneath and worse than your imaginary infidels. You are eviled by every reader here, each and every one of us is disgusted with your words. Nobody hears what you think you are saying. Your words are human waste, piles of steaming excrement
I guess that brain damage at 75 is not that uncommon – but it isn’t always accompanied by the extent of bigotry and confusion present in this rant.
Not bigotry! This is what is happening across Europe. Bill, keep your head buried in the sand.
this rant is the truth dick wad, ur the bigot and racist and obviously a leftard, u need to get with the program of whats going on ur the kind of person that is the reason we have the exteme and dangerous problem with the illegal immigrants.
We learn Thailand will find any way possible with Immigration laws to fine you and suck away your time and money. I was just told by immigration I will be fined because I did inform within 24 hours to stay at my wifes home. Ridiculous …
Well.. Thailand has its own government problem. Let’s just take the fact that it’s democracy is run by a military dictatorship at the moment. The government is monitoring and registering your every move, coupled with the level of corruption its not good.
I am a frequent traveller to Thailand, and I love the country ( and the Thai national who accompanies me..), but there are a few things that botheres just as much.
I’m still not sure when the time comes for me to move and do business here if I’m to pay any bribes to get licences or just hire someone to “make sure” the paper work is not lost in the process.
But to call thailand safer than a desert hillside in Italy is bullshit.
You should be lucky your house hasnt crumbled or burnt up yet.
And there is a big presence of Muslim’s in Thailand. Probably more than in Italy..
It ‘s a bloody shame the globilists are financing the destruction of western countries, I left AU 3 weeks ago because within 5 years there will be open war on the streets and with 10 years I fear AU will be lost, I hope I’m dead wrong.
The same In the UK and Europe
Give it is 2023, looks like you are DEAD WRONG.
to andine : it would be seriously comforting if people such as yourself did not present statements, affirmations and suggestions which have no bearing on reality stemming, as they do, from a lack of education and cultural understanding. please abstain. you are only fear mongering for the sake of fear mongering.
this has nothing to do, indeed, with the issue at hand, the new application of an old law.
You are the very definition of human ignorance and ugliness. What are you thinking when you post this vile garbage? That you are impressing someone? We are impressed with the depth of your depravity, far beneath and worse than your imaginary infidels. You are eviled by every reader here, each and every one of us is disgusted with your words. Nobody hears what you think you are saying. Your words are human waste, piles of steaming excrement
My apologies to all ..
I have no idea why this comment has landed here!
Not intended!
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Do not do TM 30 registration for me? I have been given to owner all necessary documents since last month ago.
Where can I inform this case to what police office？
This is ridiculous – plain and simple. 90 day reporting is already a total waste of time for all concerned, but this is a whole new level of wtf?
I can understand registering foreigners on long term stays when a new rental contract or house sale is undertaken, that makes sense. But then you go and stay in a hotel in town to avoid drink driving home, you are registered somewhere else?
Surely there has to be some sort of exclusion for short term stays in hotels, at least within Thailand? Otherwise, this is nothing but a money making scheme by immigration, pure and simple.
It really does show just how little the policy makers in this country care about expats – never been a better time to leave.
exactly my words.
Yup time to leave. Criminals, on parole in Canada, have less restrictions on reporting their movements than I have in Thailand!
Hi RecklessRon,
Hmmm, at the end of the day this info is designed to keep you safe. You hand this info in when you land on a plane or come overland but as people move around a lot, they need a way to track it.
They need a way to track. Every movement. It was bad enough having to go into immigration every 90 days FOREVER when Thais can move to MY homeland and become full citizens. Reporting requirements of every time you go anywhere and when you come back you have 24 hours to report or be fined 1,600 baht are more about raising money and hassling falang than about public safety. As a retired non-criminal who owns my own condo I seriously resent that 24 hour reporting requirement. If I were a criminal on parole in Canada I’d only have to report in once a week, or bi-weekly or monthly for non-violent criminals. They have MORE freedom of movement than I do here! I dislike that intensely!!!
Thai Immigration Pattaya doesn’t require this seemingly senseless requirement. After all, what does holiday travel have to do with where you live – nothing at all.
If you stay in CM and travel with your Thai girlfriend, you could register at the hotel using her ID to avoid being unregistered and thus re-registering.
Thai Immigration in Pattaya does not appear to be enforcing this ruling with the owners, but all condos are still required to register guests when they arrive or should do. All Hotels certainly do.
Follow the law or go back to your own country. Im from the usa and canada only exists because your next to the usa. So go back to the frozen tundra or ahut the f up.
This is not correct, when you come in by plane. This info isn’t registered. The land lord my wife must go register. The first time we never knew the law and I was fined 800baht. It is a 1hr drive for me to the Immigration Office. So a bit of a hike. In any case I comply and haven’t had any fines in years. Fingers crossed
Yes! 🙂
What do they think – they will catch some terrorists this way? )) Very clever! :-)) Everybody understand that only officials with serious faces may pretend they are thinking this way. Just make your faces serious, guys!
How do we register?
I have read your article which is very helpful but have you got the link to where I can try and do it online? Thanks v much in advance
Hi Dan, Sorry it was meant to be in the article but it was some how missed it will be there tomorrow.
Thanks
Still no link to the online page to register can tog upload it
Please cheers
Is this “Link ” safe because my browser is advising against opening the link?
Thank you,
Hi Les,
Sorry which link are you getting issues with?
Your July 18th link 10:54 am the one above my reply.
I am having no issues with it, It is going straight through to the government site for the online login.
Hi! Also do you know which immigration office we need to go to if we do it in person? Thanks
HI Dan,
You need to apply to local immigration office, if the town you are living does not have one, you can report to the local police station.
In Chiang Mai it is done at immigration close to the airport, not at Pomenada.
A year ago we tried to register our daughter who was visiting. The landlord filled out the form and took it to the local police station. The police had no idea what to do with it. Has anyone thought this thru?
Hi Rrose,
This is a problem, sorry as we all know some places enforce the rules differently.
Chiang Mai is currently cracking down strongest on this TM30 rule.
If a Farang owns condos and rents them out. Does the farang owner have to have a work permit seeing he or she is collecting income from the rented condos.?
I have a yellow tabian baan and it seems that negates the need for TM30s
Hi Matt,
I must admit, I think it does. But I cannot confirm 100% as we are normally only registering renters and they obviously do not have a yellow book.
Thank you for your input.
Thanks, very clear article.
What if my friends come over from other countries to live with me for couple of days? Note that I don’t charge them so it’s not a short term rental. I’m living in a condo on rent which is owned by thai owner.
Hi Chris,
If your friends come over and stay even for a couple of days you are supposed to register them.
As you are in a condo, normally you should just need to inform reception and they will take a copy of their passport and visa and do it online.
They normally have the TM030 online registration very well organized.
Im married to Thai wife. I have yellow book on house. I report every 90 days. Does wife need to register me living there?
Hi Andy, We know of no exceptions to this rule. So if I was you I would register your TM30 online to cover yourself.
you are correct. My wife called IMM, yellow book, married to Thai wife, usufruct on house, all those makes no difference.
Thank you for confirming this!
immigration told us severla years ago its been law for ages even if its not a hotel according to what immigration told us years ago and my wife has been registering me for many years as an alian living in her house. I dont tihnk its new thye just did not used to bother abuut it much and even had a go at my wife 18 months ago when she went down to update me about it not having been kept up to date
That is exactly right. It was just never really enforced.
Perfect Homes Chiangmai thanks for confirmation some of our tenants done believe me sorry for spelling im very dyslexic
In reference to reporting to immigration your place of residence . You or your landlord must report to the investigation divison where you are living . Doesnt matter how many 90 day reports you’ve done . Doesnt matter if its the same address you had on your application to extend your visa . This has to be done within 24 hours of you residing at that location . Also doesnt matter if you have a yellow book or not . Same if you travel , say you go stay at the inlaws for a couple nights , you are suposed to let them know . Hotels do , well most of them , thats why they always ask for copies of your passport . Yup crazy but thats what they want . The location is the building right behind airport immigration ….
The online system is always the best idea to use, but sometimes the system is down for no apparent reason and you will have to or the owner will have to go to the investigation division at the Chiang Mai Airport Office to report you manually. This is a serious issue as I have many friends who have not done this and ended up paying the fine when they went to do their 90 day report or Visa renewal. I have also been to the Hua Hin Immigration office and they have made sure I was registered in the system as well before they gave me a 90 day report receipt. It is frustrating for foreign tenants to be involved in this process as it affects our 90 day reports and our Visa renewals. Make sure the owner of the house has a proxy, which I believe is most important, so you as the foreign tenant can handle the process this way there has to be little or no communication because sometimes the owner may not be in a situation where they are either out of the country or cannot handle the process within 24 hours after you get back to the residence.
As a note to all owners, you should take this seriously too as it is very frustrating for foreign tenants profile full responsibility with this process, as it not only affects the owner of the property, but it also affects the tenant so they can continue to stay in your lovely house. The house owner should also have an online account to update the immigration system as this makes it easier on everyone.
To the poster Tom, you do make it a point that there should be exclusions on an overnight stay, but your comment should be removed from this sight because you are slandering the Thai government by saying this is a money making scheme.
By the way, Perfect Homes, can you post a proxy template and give instructions on how to get the proxy registered or notarized so everyone knows how to do this proxy process and we do not need to go through a lawyer or an agent to do this?
Back to TM30s: what if a person has been living somewhere a long time already and the owner just learned they need to report now? Won’t they be caught as soon as they begin reporting?
Yes, I’ve lived in the same house for nearly 10 years with my Thai wife. Yellow book usufruct. All they wanted was my wifre’s blue book, my passport and my T M 6 arrival card, all photocopied Went yesterday fined 1600 baht as I came back into the country last November
Hi,
I’m traveling in and out of Thailand frequently where I stay in our Family house where I’m also registered with the Yellow Book. Some month ago I got my PINK Thai ID for foreigners with our registered house address stated on the card. I’m travelling in and out approximately 30 times per year (I’m working in Singapore). Do I still have to submit the TM30 for for every 2 days visit? Means 30 times a year? Even if I’m registered as a person living in the house through the Yellow Book, and have the pink registered Thai ID card. (it even comes with your Thai ID number)
Where could I or a Thai literate person find the published part of these policies?
I will add the immigration act to the article shortly.
Hi Carsten,
To the st of our knowledge there are no exceptions so you must be registered. Your wife should get the online registration system working. As you are probably not going to immigration often then I suspect if you accidentally miss a time they will not notice.
Hi Just saw this nice simple explanation on a Facebook group. I think it answers many of the questions.
Yes, it is the landlord’s responsibility, but
1) Tenant must let landlord know everytime he/she goes out and return into the country – i.e. with new Arrival Card No. – and Landlord must file that within 24 hr of he/she returning… So if you DON’T WANT to upset your landlord, then you need to let Landlord know immediately.
2) There are some Farang, who are house owners, or the house is in their Thai partners’ name… The house owners (be it Thai or Farang… need to file the TM30 within 24hrs of whoever is staying here.
3) If you are renting, and even if you do not depart and return (i.e. still have the same Arrival Card No), but now change your lease, and have new address. Your new landlord will have to file TM30 within 24 hr of you starting the new lease.
I was told about the recent enforcement of the old law regarding registration of foreign individuals living in whatever accommodation in Thailand by a kind friend prior to my needing to apply for an extension of stay on retirement grounds so I went along to Building 3 at the back of the old immigration office near the airport as suggested.
I took along my partner’s land title deed (with red Garuda), his house blue book and my usufruct document (in Thai and English certified/notarised by a Thai lawyer) and after some discussion and him reading through the whole of the multi-paged usufruct the officer allowed me to sign the TM30 and he issued me with the tear-off slip verifying that I’d reported after I’d paid the 1,600 baht fine. The usufruct details are also annotated on the title deed – this was done at the Land Office some time ago and cost 100 baht. Rumour has it that you can’t get usufructs so annotated any longer but that’s only a rumour!
I also needed to renew my Thai driving licence and in order to obtain a certificate of residence needed to do this you also need the signed/stamped slip from the TM30! Certificates of residence are now issued at the immigration office situated on the 3rd floor of Building A in Promenada and are now free.
Hi David, Yes many people that have been for years are the ones getting caught out now and I think people will find out over time that everyone needs to register for the TM30 with no exceptions.
I arrived in the 19 th of september from Sweden. Om my arrivel card I always wrote my permanent adress. I will stay in my house.The adress is of course, the same as it is registraded in the yellow book. I am happy to say that I also got a pink ID card last week.
Do you mean that I still have to fill this TM 30 formulär??
HI Jan-Peder,
Yes there are no exceptions to this rule. You do need to register. Again ask your wife to apply for the TM30 online registration. Then she can do it no issues at all.
Whats a pink ID card?
The problem is ‘who’ is responsible. It should be the condo JP as with hotels it is THEIR responsibility to insist they have your passport copy and REGISTER.
If they made this 100% clear it would help
Hi Steven,
This would obviously be the best approach considering the building manager is paid by the owners. In the past this was in fact the case, but as the rules got harder to follow and more fines were paid out the headaches became too much for the building and many have stopped offering this service.
We hope it will all settle down again soon as many new rules come and go in Chiang Mai.
Where does the TN 28 come in to all this? I filled that out recently after I moved house. I went to Building1 at the old immigration and since my landlord had done his bit with the his TM 30 I had the relevant paper stapled to the back of my passport.
Hi Pat,
Sorry I cannot comment on the TN28, I will need to look into this some more. Do you have any additional details on it?
Hi, a very good, clear article. However, how do we register online, there are no links in the actual document and the one in the comments does not work with any browser.
If immigration want us to register, why is this not on any of their sites, Main and Local ones?
Hi Dave, Thank you for your comments, we have pasted the link into the main article now. It does sometime show as a virus on not working but this the link to register the TM30 that we use.
Well, if people do this online, how then do they get the new “below-slip” to keep in your passport?
Hi Hans,
We just take a screen shot once registered and then you can print that out.
It took me one week. I read every forum. Also your informaion – very good. As far as know….. I think I understand. This is the law in this country. I have a house and my wife is the householder nr 1.
1. She, or me have to do the TM30 report within 24 hour. When we arrive att our “yellow book” adress.
2. For exampel. I arrive in Bangkok friday 14 th (a trip to for example Hong Kong) We stay in BKK for three days and arrives at CNX 17th. Whithin three days WE have to report TM30 att Immigration Airport.
3. Where? At the disk? Building? I do hope I dont have to go up 5.00 as I have to do when I do my Extension?
Hi Jan,
Your basic understanding on the TM30 is correct. It is used to done at the Old Chiang Mai Immigration Building near the Airport but for the foreseeable future it is done at Promendada.. No we are not having to wake up at 5am luckily. It is a pretty simple system really.
But we still advise that you go for the online login as it much easier in the long run.
Good luck!
hello
1. i have just been to immigration to register and it seems that the person for the power of attorney needs to be a thai person. is that right?
2, i’ve tried th link but it doesn’t work. did u use the link today?
kind regards
henriette
We are now being told that you cannot give the P.O.A to someone that is not Thai. But this is currently only being intermittently enforced. I have just tried the link and it seems to be working fine.
What papers do I take to Promenada to get a certificate of residency, so I can renew drivers license?
Hi Penny,
Sorry I have to be honest and say I do not know for sure. I think you can search on line and there will be the information there.
Finally, I understand what this is all about. I always knew about the TM30, but nobody ever bothered to comply. Seems like now it must be taken seriously. So, if my Thai wife reports online the first time (assuming she hasn’t done one before which I’m not sure is the case), is she still liable for a 1600 baht fine? How would that work. Or is she required to personally to go airport immigration? It appears that people are getting nailed at their 90 day report. I remember talk of this when I last went to Promenada for the 90 day, but nobody bugged me about that. Thanks so much.
Hi there, If you can get on the online login then you might skip the fine. But if not then you will probably be fined.
A great informative site, but all of this “registration” issue is still confusing at times.
I am Belgian and bought a condo in a big building (juristic person) in my name in Jomtien in 2010. I am not permanently living in Thailand and only go there for three months holiday every year, so I live in Belgium most of the year.
Two Belgian friends of mine want to stay in my condo for one month in November, while I myself am in Belgium.
I understood that I, as condo owner, have to report my friends at the immigration office within 24 hours of their arrival. Is that correct ? If so, I can’t do that because I am in Belgium.
Please advise *what* I have to do because time is running out and I want to be in regulation with everything.
Thank you very much.
Ronny
Dear Ronny,
Thank you for your question, Firstly I would check with the building management to see if they do the registration for you. If that is the case all you need to do is ask your friends to give a copy of their passport and their arrival card in at reception once they arrive.
If not then you will probably need the the help of a Thai person to apply for an online registration for the TM30. If this fails then you can give your friends signed copies of the registration form which they can go and hand to immigration themselves as soon as they arrive.
Like the article says the information and the procedures for the TM30 are changing regularity and we are getting our updates from the Chiang Mai immigration office. So I cannot confirm the Jomtien current requirements.
Yours sincerely
Perfect Homes.
Thank you very much for a fast reply… please bear with me because it’s all new to me…
– I can’t find an email address for Metro Jomtien Condotel
(I tried googling).
– I don’t have Thai friends, sorry to say
– so if I understood correctly:
I (the condo owner) need to download both pages of the TM30 doc (from the links on this page).
I have to fill in both pages in full which my friends present to immigration office within 24 hours of arriving in Jomtien ? (they stay 3 nights in Bangkok first, so that will the address on their Arrival card)
Thank you in advance for your reply
i just had to deal with this horrible new regulation today. Screwed for 1600 baht and now that i’m reading the details, the full horror is sinking in. So basically, now, every time you leave your registered address, even domestically, even for just one day, you have to go back to immigration and tell them where you are. Am I reading this right? So if you take a trip where you stay one night in different places throughout thailand for a whole week, that’s 7 reports to immigration (not including that youd have to report again once you got home!). This might be the straw that broke the camel’s back, it’s completely untenable. We have to be slaves tied to our registered residences now???
Hi Omae,
Basically when travelling around Thailand the hotels register you automatically, so you do not have to worry about this.
According to section 38 of the 1979 immigration act, “House owners, heads of household, landlords or managers of hotels
*** who accommodate foreign nationals on a TEMPORARY basis ***
who stay in the kingdom legally, must notify the local immigration authorities within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the foreign national.”
A person on a Retirement Visa lodging for 1 year or more is not temporary basis lodging, is it? So on that basis, I would say , by Thai law, you would not have to register via TM30 if lodging long term. Reporting addresses on arrival card and by the 90 day method surely would be enough and following the rule of law. Also staying in your own condo is not lodging temporarily, surely?
I don’t make the rules. I just follow them.
Hav a rippa day everyone.
Hi David,
I agree if you simply follow the rules then life is much simpler. We all give our address on the TM cards on arrival, but often do not stay at the same address so they do in fairness need a way to know where you are.
This reminds me of the time a distant relative living in the former USSR traveled to the US–she was required to advise the relevant Soviet authorities of every move she made. Is Thailand getting like that, too?
Well lets face it, most more modern countries know where you are anyway, they just track your phones.
Thanks. Maybe it’s good then that I just have a flip phone that’s turned off over 99% of the time, and only turned on when I want to make my usual one call a day. I guess Big Brother is now everywhere!
The 24 hour requirement is not always possible: if you return Friday night, then Immigration will not be open until Monday morning. They must realize that not everyone is registered online, especially if the webpage is in Thai.
There has to be some bending of the rules for sure. Most Immigration officers are very friendly and helpful They do their best to help. They are not just trying to find a way to fine everyone that walks through the door.
Hi friends! I need your advice.
I am planning to stay in Thailand for 9-12 months, using ED-visa.
I suppose I have to provide TM30 to immigration, to avoid troubles with extending my visa (90 days report).
I will have accomodation, at a friend’s house, on a free basis. My friend isn’t owner, just renting that property.
Is it possible for him to make a report to immigration? or only the house owner can do that?
Is it good idea, if my friend does so? Can the immigration ask, why do they accomodate foreigner for free…? Etc… Any idea? Just want to prevent trouble for my friend and me, and make everything right 🙂
Thanks!
Hi there,
Yes, you will certainly need to register your TM30, Otherwise you will not be able to process you ED visa or extensions.
To the best of my knowledge, you have two choices.
1. Ask the owner of the property to register you.
2. Ask the owner to sign the proxy form and then you can ask a Thai friend to register you using this form. (Our last check has said that only a Thai can use a proxy form)
I hope this helps!
Thank you for the reply!
Can you give me a link where I can read about “proxy form”?
To explain easily to my friend, what do I want.
Hi there,
there TM30 proxy form is pretty self explanatory. Here is the link again.
https://perfecthomes.co.th/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Power-of-Attorney-Form.pdf
Please let us know how you get on.
Thanks
Thank you so much!
I have house in company name .i have blue book . we are 2 falangs living in this house. when we land in Thailand we fill in an arrival card with this address . do we have to still fill in a TM30 form ????.
Hi Doc,
For sure you need to register the TM30. I am sorry to say, there are no exceptions!
I am in Thailand on holiday I am staying at my wife’s mothers family home do I need to register the address on the TM30 any help please
Hi Mr Farell,
Basically yes anyone anywhere has to registered where ever they are staying in Chiang Mai.
That being said how long are they staying for? If only a few days then off to another hotel, I do not foresee any major issues for them.
this on-line reporting system went dead a few days ago and now the contact numbers for Immigration in Chiang Mai are also not working. What is one supposed to do when you have to fill out a TM30 several times a day?
Hi Pete, I cannot confirm the system has been down. Though if the system is down then you will need to register directly at Immigration.
Hi, it’s been down for a week at least now, I went to immigration to ask them about it and they said I have to register all of our guests with them on a daily basis – WHAT? over 70km round trip each day with a load of TM30’s, that’s simply not possible to maintain.
Oh dear, that does not sound like fun. Can you report them at the police station?
Hello to everybody,
1) the former building 3 at the airport immigration in CNX does not exist anymore. All moved to promenada, 3rd floor. Until all the immigration will move back to a new building near the airport end of 2017, 2018 or ….
2) The so called “retirement visa” is only an extension of stay based on NON-Immigrant status. It is a “temporary” stay with the option of extension but you are not a resident. Thus this does not allow an exception to register by TM30.
HI Alexander,
Thank you for the update on the Airport Immigration lets see when it re-opens.
What if anyone is camping around Thailand?
Hi Joe,
We have to honest here and say, we have no idea!
Does anyone know the ruling if camping????
I stay at two places when in Thailand. My own condo in Bangkok and our house in Prachuap in my wife’s name.
I use them alternately so the TM 30 is going to be repeatedly many times both ways if I follow the requirements.
Do you know if we can register two addresses with immigration on visa / extension?
(Logically you would expect it to be possible, however TIT)
I have only just extended my retirement visa so I cant try yet for a while.
Has anybody else tried?
Hi Joe, Just ask your wife to register both properties online. Currently Bangkok is still very lenient on the TM30, So I am not even sure if they will ask for it.
I am new here on Non-Immigrant O, Multi-entry – retirement visa I guess, arrived in Bangkok 14 days ago.
I will be travelling in/out of Bangkok on a regular basis, and doubt that I will exceed 90 days in Thailand very often. I will be out again in 10 days in fact.
1: I own 2 condos, 1 in Bangkok and a holiday condo on Phuket. I have owned and stayed in them for 10 years, but never more than 30 days.
2: I will mostly in Bangkok though.
It seems I need to get/do the following things.
1: Yellow Book (tabian baan?)
2: Certificate of Residence (need this for back home)
3: Lodge a TM28 and TM30
Where do I physically go to get these in Bangkok?
What will I need?
I assume some photos, chanod to my condo in Bangkok, passport and TM6. Anything else?
Hi Philip.
I am sorry, please clarify what you are trying to achieve.
Thank you for the clear explanation on what has to be done – like it or not!
I have tried the link for the online registration in some of the comments without any luck.
So is there a working online registration system and if can you provide the URL for it?
Hi Thomas,
Thank you for your comments, it appears the online registration is down at this time. We are hoping the same as everyone else that it will be up again soon.
Kind regards
Perfect Homes
My Thai girlfriend recently registered me as living in her home at Buriram immigration .the officer told her that the fee for this service is 500 baht.no receipt. So now after everytime I stay in a hotel in Thailand we must go back to immigration and pay 500 baht to re register.
Hello
This link not working at all 🙁
Is this still actual?
Regards
Hi Didi,
Yes, I am afraid it is still down and no sign of it coming back up yet.
I am not sure how the hotels are registering so many guests every day!
It was my understanding that Pattaya hotels would FAX the required information to Immigration.
Hi, They could do online before and they may well fax it too.
When filling in the proxy form for tm30 does it have to be witnessed by a lawyer or can anyone act as witness?
Hi there,
We have never had them witness by a lawyer and then never had any issues with our TM30.
I have tried several times to access the immigration website that you have posted …. so far without success.
Wouldn’t it have been more sensible to ensure that this website could actually be downloaded BEFORE enforcing the new regulations in regard to the TM30?
Yes, the online system is still down. There is no answer as to when it will be back up!
My landlord here in Jomtien just came to visit me today and inform me he had to pay a 1600 fine to Pattaya Immigration because my lady and I went to visit her family in Issan. I was totally baffled by what he was saying. Until I did some online research and found your well written article. So the fact we spent one night at a hotel in Khon Kaen was the trigger.
He had registered me but that stay unregistered me. Had we just stayed all nights at her family house it would be ok. I can understand the requirement each time I re-enter the country but to stay at a hotel within Thailand? This will discourage domestic tourism. I am rethinking our plans to spend a few days in Hua Hin. Every time I travel I will need to advise my landlord.
And after one night in a Khon Kaen hotel we spent 4 nights in her family home before returning to Jomtien so I could not comply with the 24 hour rule. Unless her parents reported me staying in their house for 4 days. Is this realistic? Sorry, but this regulation seemed to cross the line of common sense and practicality.
Hi John,
Sorry to hear about the fine, Yes, you have to be very careful, They sometimes turn a blind eye. But it depends on which way the wind is blowing I guess.
I hope your comments helps other readers avoid the fines.
Thanks you very much for commenting.
Hi John,
Sorry to hear that you learnt about the TM30 the hard way. It is a pain in the back side.
Good luck and I hope you do not have any issues in the future.
I study at Thammasat uni in Rangsit and so stay at a condo nearby. As soon as my Uni informed me about this rule of immigration, when I went to update my ED-visa extension I informed my Condo owner about the rule and filled a form (that the owner signed ) which I took to Pathumthani Immigration. All went well and I got my extension of stay and 90 day too.
That was in April. I still have no idea whether the condo owner has filled the necessary paperwork that he has to fill to notify about me to Immigration. The 90 days are going to be up on July 2nd. Do you think I will be fined because the landlord had failed to notify the immigration about me staying in the condo?
A TM-30 must even be filed if you are a non Thai with a long term marriage visa living in ” your ” own home. Your Thai spouse is responsible.
Hi William, that it is correct there are no exceptions to the TM30.
Basically, anyone that needed a visa to stay in Thailand needs to be registered.
NOOOO most get a <28 exemption and not obtain a visa..
Yes, even people on a tourist visa have to be registered.
For example anyone running a property on Airbnb should register all their guests even if they are staying only one night.
Sir i come bankok oct.2015. then i filled immigration form address my friend married sister bangkok house .but anyone not received me bkk airport .so i go to pattaya and stay in pattaya inn hotel.after 4days i return home india.i am not stay at bangkok.after 2day call me thailand your immigration form& your stay address different why i told my story.now i will come thailand which problem face to me.
Hello,
I live in Zire Wongamat Naklua Soi 16… Banglamung Pattaya.
Building A, my Chinese neighbors is ******* and rent for short term to Chinese people. The rules of the building forbidden to short rental.
It is possible to have immigration officers check on them as they are very noisy and every week we see new face as our neighbors come from this ******.
I believe to do many short time rental and don’t have the right, and don’t report tenant to immigration office.
Thanks to check on that as it is very inconvenient for us, my wife is Thai, she’s 6 months pregnant and need rest and calm.
Thank you…
I have a TM30 for the house that I rent. My son and daughter-in-law are coming to visit me next year for a period of 5 days and then after travelling elsewhere in Thailand for two weeks, they will stay a further 3 nights with me. They will be on 30 day visa exempt entries. From your article and answers to others questions, I assume that my Landlord will have to register them as also staying at the house that I rent. Is this going to involve a cost to my landlord for registering them ie initially for 5 nights, then again for 3 nights or is registration of an alien at your property free?
Hi Dianne,
By law yes, your land lord will need to inform the immigration department and register the TM30, but I am guessing the landlord of the property will not and will not be too worries about it as they are on a visa exempt so they will probably not be asked to provide the TM30 slip at any time.
Thank you for your reply. I actually think my landlord would report to immigration with their details, as he seems the sort of person that doesn’t want to do anything wrong or do anything to get himself in trouble. Again would there be a cost to him to add my guests, as aliens temporarily staying at this property
Hi Dianne,
There should be no cost for him to register the TM30 for your family.
I am happy I found this site, but I guess a bit too late. I have been in CM for almost 2 weeks now. I am staying in our family home ( my wife is Thai and owner) and she was not aware of this law. If we go to immigration tomorrow will we be fined for the late registration?
I have been travelling to Thailand for more than 10 years and just recently heard about this TM30 registration. I have also been to the Thai embassy in Oslo many times to get a 60 days visa, last time 4 weeks ago. If this is an old law that recently is beeing enforced, why not inform us. I do not want to break the law, but I certainly have done that.
I hope immigration did not fine you! It is always good to stay on the right side of the law.
AS you say the regulations on the TM30 have been around for many years, though only just being enforced.
Hi, I have an additional question. We often visit my wifes family in Mae Wang and stay there 1-3 days. Do my father in law has to register me each time I stay there? If yes do you know where we do this in Mae Wang.
By law yes, you should be registered, we believe you should be able to register the TM30 at the local police station, but we doubt they will be interested.
Hi , i stay in the PP Condo . When i Go with Night Train or Night Bus to Bangkok and take the Night Bus or Train in the next Night back , without a Night in the Hotel or .
Then i must not starting the prozess for the TM30 ?
Correct?
HI there,
If you were not registered anywhere else then it would appear there is no reason to re-register.
07 JAN. 2018. I recently went to Jomtiem to get a 30 day extension on my multiply tourist visa. I had my apartment lady fill out my TM 30 form , but she refused to register me on line. When I went to Jomtiem they told me my land lady had to pay a 1600 baht fine for not registering me. When the Immigration lady phoned her and told her to come down to pay the fine. she still refused to come down. The immigration police they told me I had to pay her fine or I would not get my extension. Does any body know if this is real or just another way for the police to scam us out of more money, while letting their apartment owner friends get of free? Les.
Jomtiem immigration, will probably take the easiest route and that is to make you pay the fine. We have heard of land owners refusing to pay and there is not much they can do to enforce it. So it is you that needs the document or you could wait until till Pattaya Immigration find a more effective way of making the owners that are stubborn pay it.
I am off to Thailand in February ..this year 2018, and will be staying with my wife in her rented room..do I have to report to Pattaya imm. or does my wife have to…I was last there in September 2017 and never bothered with the report..was a bit unsure when I left the country, but nothing was said..want to be prepared this time .. any help on this one pls
Basically it should be the responsibility of the Land Lord to report you to Pattaya immigration, though they may not wish to.
They Pattaya immigration may allow you to register the TM30 yourself or your wife to do so. But you will need to check.
I was with my girlfriend – at her place – in February and went to the local police-station to report my stay. The officers in charge didn’t understand it at first sight but after a few minutes someone noticed there had been a TM030 in the registers before. So I was the second one to be registered, it lead to a photo with the officers, a big smile and a thumbs up before I left the office.
Easy solution! If you dont like just move!
My Thai wife and I will be going to the UK in April. On our return I understand that she, as the house owner, will be expected to complete the TM 30. That’s fine, but on the form it states that we must notify the local Immigration, and if there is no Immigration office located in “that area”, the local police official must be notified.
What do they mean by “that area”? I am registered with the Immigration office in Phayao, but live 85 kilometers from there
…….near Chiang Kham. Is Chiang Kham considered to be in the area of Phayao, or is the distance of 85 kilometers far enough away from Phayao for it to be considered not in “that area” and we can take the TM30 to the local police official instead of trailing 170 kilometers to Phayao and back with a piece of paper?
This is very unclear and a proper explanation from the
Immigration Department in regard to the meaning of “that area” would be helpful.
Unfortunately, I think the only ones can answer that is your local police station or the closest immigration department.
Sorry, there are no clear guidelines for designated jurisdiction. How about asking your wife to call the police station.
If I arrive home late on Friday night, and give my passport to the landlord on Saturday morning, how can they register within 24 hours? if done on line how do I get the receipt of notification paper for my passport. The Landlord want to charge me 800 baht for registering me.
Any comments?
I remember doing this by mail last year (I am staying in Bangkok) but can’t seem to find the address of where to send it. Does anyone know anything about this or the address I could send it to?
Thanks!
Hi. I did not know about this, so I was fined when I did my first 90 day report. Although it’s the landlord ‘s responsibility I had not told them I’d been out of the country so I paid immigration. This time I have informed my landlord, but I am aware that he works and is unlikely to have been able to register me within the 24 hours. What do I do if he doesn’t reregister me at all in order to avoid the fine? I don’t want to be fined again when I do my next 90 day report.
I have rented a house in Tak Province now for nine years and thinking about having my Thai wife also rent a condo in Chiang Mai with us staying there when we visit Chiang Mai. So who ris responsible for reporting me staying there – her or the owner?
The owner may not know I am there. Does the law impose a obligation also on the renter to report to the owner when a foreigner stays at the renter’s residence?
Dear Moe,
It is the owners responsibility to report you, but if you or your wife do not report you are staying there, then the land lord cannot be held responsible.
Bonjour pour faire plus précis
Ce n’est pas une Loi c’est un article de la loi qui décrit parfaitement les obligations Immigration Act, B.E. 2522
Chapter 4 Temporary Stay in the Kingdom
Section 38 The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence , or the hotel manager where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. If there is no Immigration Office located in that area , the local police official for that area must be notified.
In case the house , dwelling place , or hotel where the alien has stayed under provision of Para.1 is located within the Bangkok area , such notification must be reported to the competent official at the Immigration Division.
Making notification , in reference to the Para 1 and 2 of this Section , must comply with regulations prescribed by the Director General.
Cordialement
I realize foreigner registration has been around for a while now, but the Phuket office is now enforcing the owner turning up or having the Power of Attorney signed by both parties. My ex-wife who owns the house and left last year to start a general store up country. She signed a copy of her tabien bahn and ID which I photocopied to register after my last 2 trips away. This time the immigration official insisted on her coming or having the PoA. I explained the difficulty but it did not matter. So now I am hoping she can register me from where she is, an hours drive from a provincial capital. I also need it to get my licence renewed, although I could pay for the embassy to give me a address registration B2000!
Question, do I get to keep the PoA or is a new one expected every time I have to register?
It is interesting to hear Phuket immigration is now enforcing the TM30.
I am sure you will find the rules vary each time you go in. Some days they will be more difficult than others.
Good luck
TM30 is new for me .I am nearly 10 years in Thailand and unknowingly broke the law many time’s. i brought a house cash for over 3’000’000 baht got a 30 year lease on it with a very trustful law firm. I never left the country but I was with my girlfriend and her disabled sister to Bangkok to get her a place to stay permanently at a government disabled home. this was costing me over 100’000 baht legal fee’s to get this place via lawyer(had bribe offers from corrupt gov.officials much higher then 100’000(yes, without any receipt) to get this place. take girlfriend (of then years) and her kids 17+19 at technology college holiday’s by car all over Thailand. i am retired, the only provider to 4 Thai people and have to hold out for 3 1/2 more years for the kids to finish school. then i am out of Thailand with or without girlfriend .my very small hope to stay, Thai’s will wake up,,
The problem is that there is no expat union or any foreigner represtative that can talk to the immigration about this… u get in their way & you will be deported… this is absolutely ridiculous… I think the expats need to go on social media & boycott travelling inside thailand.. boycott beaches, islands & entertainment venues for 6 months.. wont go to the beaches & out of town for new years so wont have to report the address again & again. once they see the money drying up.. they’ll calm their horses & change the law
I don’t know about the website for registering the TM30, but I do know that despite several attempts over the past two and a half years, I am still unable to use the “online service” for submitting the TM47 every 90 days.
As a result, I still have to do a 100 mile return trip and turn up in person at the Immigration Office. Whenever I ask about the “online service”, I’m met with giggles and told to be patient. What a shambles!
When I travel outside of Thailand, then return, I go to the office here, tell then I’ve returned, they give me a paper to put in my passport and they inform immigration.
I’ve heard now and again that some people who rent private homes have sometimes had problems with owners failing to report a renter’s return to Thailand, or sometimes even that a foreigner has rented a home.., and that the way it works now, ‘someone’ has to pay the non-reporting fine and its often the renter who pays. The fine for not reporting is substantial.
So.., if I rent a house through you, do you have any role in immigration reporting as I mention or will I be left to the decisions of the property owner to report such a travel-return to immigration or not and how can I know if they have reported my presence each time I would need to meet such legal requirements or not..?
Following up, I went through the whole registration procedure and received an email telling me to “click here to confirm your email. Since then (24 hours) silence. I live in hope.
Note that not all provinces of Thailand are included in this system. I’m registered now for (I think) Phuket, but Si Sa Ket is apparently not available.
any updates?
I also tried to register an account in website provided and confirmed my email address, and since then I have been waiting for 22 days, so far still haven’t receive any user name and password… Is anyone having the same trouble?
This would be a classic case of monkey see, monkey do or a picture is worth a thousand words. I am grateful for the info but if you posted a mock filled in form It would help tremendously most everyone to present a correct filled form during the process of notification. We all know that some officers do get very picky.
Where do I enter the name of the city where I live? What does Line mean, is it Soi? What does Road mean: city? If not, where is the field for city?
Do I print my name on: wish to notify the address where the alien received permission…if not what would be the input?
I wrote to my lawyer regarding the TM30 and this is the response I got –
(I hope it helps)
In answer to your question, “But if my tenant travels outside Thailand and come back and do not inform me or refuse to inform me? I can not track my tenant every day. What do you suggest me to do?”, we recommend as follows:
The law is written such that if the TM 30 is not filed, the foreign tenant will subsequently not be able to renew his visa
Amend your contract to include language that
indemnifies you against any fines assessed by the authorities if they do not notify you within X hrs of returning to their residence;
allows you to deduct the fines from their security deposit
requires them to immediately top up their security deposit
ensure that default allows you to terminate the contract and forfeit their security deposit in full
You can also give them PoA to file for themselves (on your behalf), with language in the lease agreement (or a separate contract) that stipulates it their responsibility to file in addition to the aforementioned language if they fail to file.
Further information about the TM 30 regulation follows. Let us know if we can be of any further assistance
TM 30 SUBMISSION
Background
Regulations that have long been on the books (since 1979) are now being actively enforced by Immigration. Essentially, the law requires a TM 30 to be submitted by the hotelier, landlord, foreign individual as property owner, to immigration (or the local police department if outside Bangkok and in a province without immigration) every time said foreigner:
Internationally: returns to Thailand from overseas; or
Domestically: stays overnight in a dwelling other than their primary residence
This applies even if you remain living at the same permanent address. Domestically, our advice is to not be concerned UNLESS the place where you stay registers your name with their own TM 30, in which case you will have to “reset” your residence back to your primary place of residence upon your return.
The TM 30 must be filed within 24 hrs. of either a) or b) above.
As is typical here in Thailand, policy is often out of sync with execution by the authorities, so the regulations are being unevenly applied and in some cases the local responsible authority (example local police stations outside Bangkok) aren’t even aware of the regulation. Our advice however is to err on the side of caution, since as a local resident, immigration can hold up the renewal of your long-stay visa if TM 30 information has not been properly updated, further complicated by landlords who refuse to pay the fines, which pushes the responsibility to the tenants. Fines can range from THB 500 up to THB 10,000 per visa holder.
Compliance
Options include:
Tenant/Landlord. Where you are a tenant, the obligation to file is technically on the landlord, though landlords often push this to the tenant. The landlord may provide GPS Power of Attorney to act on their behalf each time a tenant notifies them/us of an entry. The tenant usually, though not always, pays the fees;
Property Owner. As Where you are the owner of your own residence, you may file yourself or you may provide GPS Power of Attorney and engage us to manage this for you as follows:
Filing
There are 3 ways to submit the form as follows :
By Hand – either at the nearest immigration office (in Bangkok) or at the local police station (provinces without a local immigration office).
Online – Note that for the online submission of TM 30, the landlord/property owner is required to apply for a Username & Password first. Our professional fee to first obtain the Username & Password is THB 1,000. Please also note that the online system is not stable. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. We do not recommend this method at this time.
By Post – sent registered post (for tracking purposes) to the nearest immigration office in which you reside
Professional Fees
Preparation/Filing: THB 2,000 +++ /submission
prepare and submit T.M.30
Create Online Account: THB 1,000 +++ (one time fee)
Draft Power of Attorney (between landlord/property owner and GPS): THB 500 +++ / PoA
one time, depending on the validity of the PoA (can be limited or in perpetuity until revoked)
Remark: The above fees exclude 7% VAT, disbursements and government fees
This will really affect tourism in Thailand.
Why?
Tourist are unaffected, this has been done by hotels for the last 15 years. It is just a job for landlords. It is not that difficult, we are just adversed to change.
I am a tourist and have been invited to stay at a friends house for a couple of days,, does this mean they also need to register me, despite me just being here for a few weeks holiday, and them not being a business, just friends inviting me over ?? And how would immigration know ? Would I get stopped as I fly back home ???
Hi, here’s my situation. A friend is visiting with a multi-entry tourist visa and will stay with me for most of her stay. My name is on the lease and I’m wondering if my landlady needs to report to the Immigration or do I have to be the one who should do the reporting?
Thank you.
totally confusing, just how they like it, so they can defecate on a foreigner and get payback for discrimination overseas and squeeze out some money, the mismanaged economy needing it, and worse to come
Can someone please share his experience…..
If the house owner goes personally to submit the TM 30 at immigration div 1 in Chaengwattana, how long does it take for them to enter the data in the system ? Can he wait and get the acknowledgment receipt ?
Once I gt the acknowledgment receipt from the owner, can I personally go for my 90 days reporting the same or next day ? Or try to sumbit online ?
Any information on the above will be quite helpful please.
Thank you
Ok, so I am here for a few weeks holiday. I have been invited to stay at a friends house for a few days,,, does that mean they have to register me. And how will immigration even know ? If they do not, will I be pulled up, when leaving Thailand to go home ??
Lets put it this way, I have never heard of anyone being stopped at the Airport for their TM30. Remember, if you stay in a hotel you will not have a copy of your TM30 either.
Has anyone ever been stopped at the Airport for TM30?
This is ridiculous, especially for those of us that live 40-60km away from an immigration office. There should at least be a way to drop the form off at the local police station. I am wondering what will come next? May be they will make a law that we have to register every time we visit 7-Eleven. They should at least have the online system up and running before trying to enforce this. Hopefully they have had the hindsight to save profiles in their online system so people do not have to manually enter all the details every time.
They may as well make us wear monitoring ankle bracelets, or chip us like dogs on arrival. After 25 years of living here. I often get sick of being treated like a criminal every 90 days.
Hi Mike. Thanks for the information. I recently filed a TM30, and paid the fine of course, in June when I renewed my visa. I am planning a few trips over the next 6 months. Can you tell me if I need to have a copy of the title deed to the property and the rental agreement every time I report my return? I will be staying at the same place. Thanks
Hi there,
You should just be able to pop in with your slip and update it, you should not need all the documents again.
But as we say with the TM30 rules changing from immigration office to the immigration office, you will need to double-check.
I intend staying in my own condo.Do I need to register myself at immigration within 24 hours (fairly onerous after a long journey)or is the Juristic person responsible??
I’ve lived as a retiree in Thailand for nine years now and, for the first two, got caught up in this nonsense. As I have traveled from home in the north a few days at a time I never thought to restart on return. They fined me 2000 Baht for not going, in person, to the Chiang Mai office to restart my 90 days! This would mean every trip up country requires a stop at immigration! It ain’t happening, I’ll stay at cheaper aces who don’t worry about the system. Thailand hoteliers will lose money!
Why can’t we check back in to our home residence using 7-11 or some other local entity like the police department? I live 70 km from Chiang Mai and won’t waste a day doing this. Hotels are the losers and bar girls may be the winners by checking in for us.😁
I must pay the fine, if I need to prolong my visa
Hello, I really hope someone can help. I have just found out that my rental agency never registered me at my house. I have been staying there for a few years! When I moved in they had said they contacted the landlord and is was all organized. But now the landlord has stopped using the agency and I am in direct contact with them , they have told me the agency never contacted them and they didn’t know they had to do anything!
My employer has always dealt with 90 day reporting etc and they have never brought up any issues. They have been using my previous address. I now want to ensure everything is correct at immigration and make sure they have my correct address but I am unsure what to do or how serious it is that I have been unregistered for so long? Any help/ advice with this matter at all would be really appreciated.