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TM30 Explained! You Must Register Any Non Thai National Living In Your Property!

TM30 Explained! You Must Register Any Non Thai National Living In Your Property!

Are You Living In or Renting a Private Property in Thailand to Foreigners?

Or simply have a someone staying in your property that is not a Thai national?

TM030 form for register Non-Thai nationals living on a property in Thailand

TM030 form for register Non-Thai nationals living on a property in Thailand

If so, you need to be aware of a law that has existed in Thailand for quite a while and applies to everyone who provides accommodations to foreigners.

While this law has been on the books for years, the enforcement of it has now been expanded to include properties which are not classified as hotels.

The law in question is called TM30. It is a section of the Thai Immigration laws that refers to accommodations of foreigners residing on Thai soil.

The law states that all properties that have non-Thai nationals living on their premises must register them with the immigration department.

The recent enforcement comes partly in the wake of the worldwide increase in terrorism. The Thai government is cooperating with Interpol and other international police forces in putting a halt to terrorists who have long seen Thailand as a relatively safe place to hide out.

This law was originally designed to increase the amount of monitoring and surveillance that Thai authorities can exercise on foreigners residing in their country, whether they’re on holiday or here on a permanent, residential basis.thai-immigration

The system was also designed to be useful to the government in gathering data on tourism.

At the same time, the immigration department saw it as an opportunity to crackdown on the number of foreigners who have over-stayed their visas (as well as their welcome) and were working here illegally.

Expansion of the Law

thailand-tmo3-all-over-thailandRecently, there has been an announcement by the government that is making a stir in the comment posts of Thai property websites.

The enforcement of the TM30 law has now been expanded to include those who are not covered by the definitions of the hotel act, but who are offering accommodations to foreign nationals nonetheless.

The law has actually been in effect for many years now and works along with the hotel act of 2005. When a foreigner on holiday checks into a hotel, the proprietor must make a copy of their passport details, their visa and their TM card. This information must then be forwarded to the immigration department.

In recent years this system has been updated so the proprietors can register their guests with immigration via an online registration system.

Who Has to Register?

When it was originally written, the hotel act specifically excluded properties having less than four rooms for rent from having to apply for a hotel license in order to operate.

This allowed private properties consisting of condominiums, homes and guest houses falling under the required number of rooms to avoid the expense and trouble of applying for a hotel license. It also exempted them from having to obey other provisions of the Hotel Act which were designed for the hotel business and didn’t really apply to them.

The lack of enforcement meant that virtually nobody except hoteliers knew that the law applied to everyone providing accommodations to foreigners.

This has all changed. Under the new expanded law, this non-enforcement loophole has been closed and anyone who offers accommodations must register their foreign guests with the immigration department.

Ongoing non-compliance can be costly for the private property owner. Fines are around 1,600 Baht for every instance of non-registration and can add up quickly as guests come and go.

Long-term tenants usually find out they have not been registered when they pop down to immigration to do their 90-day check in, or a visa renewal. So, if you’re on good terms with your landlord and want to avoid trouble for both you and them, you might want to warn them before you make your next trip to immigration.

Who is responsible for registering the person living on the premises?

Property owners in Thailand must register all Non-Thai Nationals living in their property.

Property owners in Thailand must register all Non-Thai Nationals living in their property.

Let’s put it this way, it’s the owner that will be fined, so the overall responsibility is with the owner.  Many condominiums in Chiang Mai and Thailand in general will take responsibility for registering new tenants as they have access to an online system and they can complete the registration very easily.

Then again, there is a good number of less “foreigner-orientated’ condos that do not wish to get involved and will push it back on to the owners of the individual units or the property manager.

Either way, this can have consequences to the tenant as the tenant may be faced with having to prove to an Immigration officer where they have been all the time that they’ve been in Thailand. So, it’s important that your landlord keep the registration paperwork up-to-date. Even though they will be the ones fined, you’ll be the one with some explaining to do.

For houses and condos, the responsibility lies with the home-owner to register a non-Thai national staying on the premises within 24 hours of the time of their arrival with the local immigration office.

When dealing with rental homes in general it is the owner that will be entirely responsible as they are the only ones that can apply for an online login username and password.  Once they have these, they can simply logon and register all new guests and tenants.

Even listing your property with a property rental agency does not absolve you of responsibility. If the agency does not follow through on the registration of guests that they rent your property to, you will be charged with the fine.

How Can Home and Condominium Owners Register?

There are 3 ways that the home and condominium owner can register his tenants and temporary guests.

RegisterKeyboard4101. The easiest thing to do is to apply online.  The property owner will apply for a username and password that will allow them to login easily and register any guests or tenants that are staying on the property.  The biggest drawback is that the online system is still very temperamental and it’s often the case that once applied they will not receive their login credentials. If you’re using the online system, it’s important that you receive a confirmation of the registration. (Online Site is down – Currently there is no answer as to when it will be back up and running)

2. Another way is to simply register in person. There is a form called the TM30 form that you can download here. The home owner or property manager has the tenant or guest fill out the form then they file the form in-person with the immigration office. Download ( Tm30 Form Part 1) (TM30 Form Part 2) – Microsoft Word Format

3. The in-person registration can also be done by the tenants of guests in person at the immigration office. The tenants/guests on the property submitting the TM30 document at the immigration office will also need a signed proxy from the owner stating that he/she gives permission for the tenants/guests to act on their behalf. Download  (TM30 Proxy Form) Microsoft Word Format

Please note that every individual staying on the property needs to be registered, not one per household. Basically, anyone that needed a visa to stay in Thailand needs to be registered.

Once I Have Registered, Is That It?

That’s it unless you like to travel. If you don’t travel around and just stay at the premises you are registered at then you won’t have any issues.  Your registration does not expire. As soon as you leave the country, even for a few days, you must re-register on your return.

If you stay in a hotel/guest house within Thailand, then you’ve re-registered in a different location. Once you return to your primary location in Thailand you have to re-register in that location again.

If you are a frequent travel and you’re living in accommodation that does not have access or does not use the online system, then it would be highly advisable to ask the owner for pre-signed proxies for the property for yourself and anyone else staying with you.

tm030Do I need to register everyone staying at the property? Yes. Everyone staying at the property must register, there is the second form for adding multiple people to the property if you are doing it at immigration.

tm030Do I need to register if I am living in my own home? Yes. If you are a foreign national and own your home in Thailand, you must register your occupancy.

tm030Do I need to re-register if I have been out of the country for a couple of days? Whenever you leave the country, you must re-register upon your return.

tm030Do I need to register if I have been on holiday and stayed at another hotel/guest house? Yes. The owner of the hotel/guest house will have registered you as a guest of the hotel/guest house. Once you return to your primary place of residence in Thailand, you must re-register.

Please copy and paste this link into your browser. https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/?sessionExpire=true

It some times showing as a virus or not going though but this is the link we use to register online.

Having trouble explaining the TM30 regulations to a Thai person. This is the Thai Version of this TM30 article here.

Please remember that we love to hear your comments, questions and experiences in the comments section below!

(123) Comments

  1. DaveCNX

    on   said 

    Thank you for this info, I just wished you had written it earlier it could of saved me the troubles I had with my owner as I had left the country and came back, but did not know I had to re-register.
    The owner refused to pay the fine as he had registered me previously and I had not informed him that I had been to Vietnam.
    As they say, You Live and Learn!

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Sorry, but we hope it is not too late for many others.
      Remember every immigration office is different so some will be more relaxed than others!

      Reply
    • I have a TM30 Reciept with my wife duahgter and myself listed as resident
      E
      This is an ill thought out system but has beeb the LAW since 1979
      What an incompetent lot they are

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    • Andine Tupalska

      on   said 

      Hi!
      I am a 75 y old Australian retiree.
      Whilst there are many comments deriding the actions of theThai government, let me put a different perspective on it.
      I am currently living in a wonderfull place called Val Di Sole in the mountains north of Italy 35 ks from the Austro / Swiss border. Its a lovely place and as yet, we have no refugees this far up the mountains. Life is peaceful, the food is great, and the vistas are excellent. I spent my winter skiing, and it was super!
      There are no refugees in this area, and there is no Muslim threat.

      I think that this will change shortly … Brenner pass is now closed by the Austrians ( they parked a tank there to make the point ) … The incoming Mediterranean ports are being closed now, and the refugee influx has gone down about 80% from Junes 22,000 incoming refugees. I think that now the infiltrated Muslim war hordes, will soon start their campaigns of terror in the cities of Italy. I am returning to Thailand, because I do not want to be in the firing, or knifing line!
      Let me be plain .. Controlling the hordes is of the essence .. Here in Europe they have no control at all … no idea of how many there are , where they are, where they are from, and so on. The results of that, that occasionally hit the news are a very small percentage of what actually goes on in the cities here!
      The reality is that people no longer feel safe in their cities, and women in particular, do not go out by themselves at night, because it is too dangerous.
      Attacks and harassment is common stuff, and can lead to minor scuffles or terrifying ordeals.
      One has to read the translations of the Quaran to form an understanding of the problem! In a nut shell we are all infidels and we are to be killed in the name of their evil god. It is NOT the religion of Peace!!
      Sharia law is to be installed on the entire planet. That is the directive in the book that they all swear to. You will not like that at all.
      There is no such thing as a good Muslim who desires peace and will return your love. That is a lie .. ( Recommended by the Quaran) For some it is a question of time and circumstance .. Radicalisation is a figment of our imagination, because we feel we have to make excuses for these people.
      The fact is that if you are a Muslim you are directed to kill the infidel.

      Thailand is a very safe place to live in … No problems except right at the bottom areas.
      I’m happy to put up with a bit of inconvenience …

      Regards … Andine

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  2. Tom.

    on   said 

    This is ridiculous – plain and simple. 90 day reporting is already a total waste of time for all concerned, but this is a whole new level of wtf?

    I can understand registering foreigners on long term stays when a new rental contract or house sale is undertaken, that makes sense. But then you go and stay in a hotel in town to avoid drink driving home, you are registered somewhere else?

    Surely there has to be some sort of exclusion for short term stays in hotels, at least within Thailand? Otherwise, this is nothing but a money making scheme by immigration, pure and simple.

    It really does show just how little the policy makers in this country care about expats – never been a better time to leave.

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    • RecklessRon

      on   said 

      Yup time to leave. Criminals, on parole in Canada, have less restrictions on reporting their movements than I have in Thailand!

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      • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

        on   said 

        Hi RecklessRon,
        Hmmm, at the end of the day this info is designed to keep you safe. You hand this info in when you land on a plane or come overland but as people move around a lot, they need a way to track it.

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        • RecklessRon

          on   said 

          They need a way to track. Every movement. It was bad enough having to go into immigration every 90 days FOREVER when Thais can move to MY homeland and become full citizens. Reporting requirements of every time you go anywhere and when you come back you have 24 hours to report or be fined 1,600 baht are more about raising money and hassling falang than about public safety. As a retired non-criminal who owns my own condo I seriously resent that 24 hour reporting requirement. If I were a criminal on parole in Canada I’d only have to report in once a week, or bi-weekly or monthly for non-violent criminals. They have MORE freedom of movement than I do here! I dislike that intensely!!!

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          • Thai Immigration Pattaya doesn’t require this seemingly senseless requirement. After all, what does holiday travel have to do with where you live – nothing at all.

            If you stay in CM and travel with your Thai girlfriend, you could register at the hotel using her ID to avoid being unregistered and thus re-registering.

          • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

            on   said 

            Thai Immigration in Pattaya does not appear to be enforcing this ruling with the owners, but all condos are still required to register guests when they arrive or should do. All Hotels certainly do.

          • Sean horrell

            on   said 

            Follow the law or go back to your own country. Im from the usa and canada only exists because your next to the usa. So go back to the frozen tundra or ahut the f up.

      • Yes! 🙂
        What do they think – they will catch some terrorists this way? )) Very clever! :-)) Everybody understand that only officials with serious faces may pretend they are thinking this way. Just make your faces serious, guys!

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  3. Dan

    on   said 

    How do we register?
    I have read your article which is very helpful but have you got the link to where I can try and do it online? Thanks v much in advance

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      HI Dan,
      You need to apply to local immigration office, if the town you are living does not have one, you can report to the local police station.
      In Chiang Mai it is done at immigration close to the airport, not at Pomenada.

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      • Rrose

        on   said 

        A year ago we tried to register our daughter who was visiting. The landlord filled out the form and took it to the local police station. The police had no idea what to do with it. Has anyone thought this thru?

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        • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

          on   said 

          Hi Rrose,
          This is a problem, sorry as we all know some places enforce the rules differently.
          Chiang Mai is currently cracking down strongest on this TM30 rule.

          Reply
  4. don meurett

    on   said 

    If a Farang owns condos and rents them out. Does the farang owner have to have a work permit seeing he or she is collecting income from the rented condos.?

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Matt,
      I must admit, I think it does. But I cannot confirm 100% as we are normally only registering renters and they obviously do not have a yellow book.
      Thank you for your input.

      Reply
  5. Chris

    on   said 

    Thanks, very clear article.
    What if my friends come over from other countries to live with me for couple of days? Note that I don’t charge them so it’s not a short term rental. I’m living in a condo on rent which is owned by thai owner.

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Chris,
      If your friends come over and stay even for a couple of days you are supposed to register them.
      As you are in a condo, normally you should just need to inform reception and they will take a copy of their passport and visa and do it online.
      They normally have the TM030 online registration very well organized.

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  6. andy Weysham

    on   said 

    Im married to Thai wife. I have yellow book on house. I report every 90 days. Does wife need to register me living there?

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  7. Walter

    on   said 

    immigration told us severla years ago its been law for ages even if its not a hotel according to what immigration told us years ago and my wife has been registering me for many years as an alian living in her house. I dont tihnk its new thye just did not used to bother abuut it much and even had a go at my wife 18 months ago when she went down to update me about it not having been kept up to date

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  8. In reference to reporting to immigration your place of residence . You or your landlord must report to the investigation divison where you are living . Doesnt matter how many 90 day reports you’ve done . Doesnt matter if its the same address you had on your application to extend your visa . This has to be done within 24 hours of you residing at that location . Also doesnt matter if you have a yellow book or not . Same if you travel , say you go stay at the inlaws for a couple nights , you are suposed to let them know . Hotels do , well most of them , thats why they always ask for copies of your passport . Yup crazy but thats what they want . The location is the building right behind airport immigration ….

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  9. The online system is always the best idea to use, but sometimes the system is down for no apparent reason and you will have to or the owner will have to go to the investigation division at the Chiang Mai Airport Office to report you manually. This is a serious issue as I have many friends who have not done this and ended up paying the fine when they went to do their 90 day report or Visa renewal. I have also been to the Hua Hin Immigration office and they have made sure I was registered in the system as well before they gave me a 90 day report receipt. It is frustrating for foreign tenants to be involved in this process as it affects our 90 day reports and our Visa renewals. Make sure the owner of the house has a proxy, which I believe is most important, so you as the foreign tenant can handle the process this way there has to be little or no communication because sometimes the owner may not be in a situation where they are either out of the country or cannot handle the process within 24 hours after you get back to the residence.
    As a note to all owners, you should take this seriously too as it is very frustrating for foreign tenants profile full responsibility with this process, as it not only affects the owner of the property, but it also affects the tenant so they can continue to stay in your lovely house. The house owner should also have an online account to update the immigration system as this makes it easier on everyone.
    To the poster Tom, you do make it a point that there should be exclusions on an overnight stay, but your comment should be removed from this sight because you are slandering the Thai government by saying this is a money making scheme.
    By the way, Perfect Homes, can you post a proxy template and give instructions on how to get the proxy registered or notarized so everyone knows how to do this proxy process and we do not need to go through a lawyer or an agent to do this?

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  10. Back to TM30s: what if a person has been living somewhere a long time already and the owner just learned they need to report now? Won’t they be caught as soon as they begin reporting?

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    • Mike

      on   said 

      Yes, I’ve lived in the same house for nearly 10 years with my Thai wife. Yellow book usufruct. All they wanted was my wifre’s blue book, my passport and my T M 6 arrival card, all photocopied Went yesterday fined 1600 baht as I came back into the country last November

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  11. Carsten

    on   said 

    Hi,
    I’m traveling in and out of Thailand frequently where I stay in our Family house where I’m also registered with the Yellow Book. Some month ago I got my PINK Thai ID for foreigners with our registered house address stated on the card. I’m travelling in and out approximately 30 times per year (I’m working in Singapore). Do I still have to submit the TM30 for for every 2 days visit? Means 30 times a year? Even if I’m registered as a person living in the house through the Yellow Book, and have the pink registered Thai ID card. (it even comes with your Thai ID number)

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  12. Brian D

    on   said 

    Hi Just saw this nice simple explanation on a Facebook group. I think it answers many of the questions.

    Yes, it is the landlord’s responsibility, but
    1) Tenant must let landlord know everytime he/she goes out and return into the country – i.e. with new Arrival Card No. – and Landlord must file that within 24 hr of he/she returning… So if you DON’T WANT to upset your landlord, then you need to let Landlord know immediately.
    2) There are some Farang, who are house owners, or the house is in their Thai partners’ name… The house owners (be it Thai or Farang… need to file the TM30 within 24hrs of whoever is staying here.
    3) If you are renting, and even if you do not depart and return (i.e. still have the same Arrival Card No), but now change your lease, and have new address. Your new landlord will have to file TM30 within 24 hr of you starting the new lease.

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  13. David Cartwright

    on   said 

    I was told about the recent enforcement of the old law regarding registration of foreign individuals living in whatever accommodation in Thailand by a kind friend prior to my needing to apply for an extension of stay on retirement grounds so I went along to Building 3 at the back of the old immigration office near the airport as suggested.
    I took along my partner’s land title deed (with red Garuda), his house blue book and my usufruct document (in Thai and English certified/notarised by a Thai lawyer) and after some discussion and him reading through the whole of the multi-paged usufruct the officer allowed me to sign the TM30 and he issued me with the tear-off slip verifying that I’d reported after I’d paid the 1,600 baht fine. The usufruct details are also annotated on the title deed – this was done at the Land Office some time ago and cost 100 baht. Rumour has it that you can’t get usufructs so annotated any longer but that’s only a rumour!
    I also needed to renew my Thai driving licence and in order to obtain a certificate of residence needed to do this you also need the signed/stamped slip from the TM30! Certificates of residence are now issued at the immigration office situated on the 3rd floor of Building A in Promenada and are now free.

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi David, Yes many people that have been for years are the ones getting caught out now and I think people will find out over time that everyone needs to register for the TM30 with no exceptions.

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  14. Jan-Peder

    on   said 

    I arrived in the 19 th of september from Sweden. Om my arrivel card I always wrote my permanent adress. I will stay in my house.The adress is of course, the same as it is registraded in the yellow book. I am happy to say that I also got a pink ID card last week.

    Do you mean that I still have to fill this TM 30 formulär??

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      HI Jan-Peder,
      Yes there are no exceptions to this rule. You do need to register. Again ask your wife to apply for the TM30 online registration. Then she can do it no issues at all.

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  15. steven

    on   said 

    The problem is ‘who’ is responsible. It should be the condo JP as with hotels it is THEIR responsibility to insist they have your passport copy and REGISTER.

    If they made this 100% clear it would help

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Steven,
      This would obviously be the best approach considering the building manager is paid by the owners. In the past this was in fact the case, but as the rules got harder to follow and more fines were paid out the headaches became too much for the building and many have stopped offering this service.
      We hope it will all settle down again soon as many new rules come and go in Chiang Mai.

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  16. Where does the TN 28 come in to all this? I filled that out recently after I moved house. I went to Building1 at the old immigration and since my landlord had done his bit with the his TM 30 I had the relevant paper stapled to the back of my passport.

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Pat,
      Sorry I cannot comment on the TN28, I will need to look into this some more. Do you have any additional details on it?

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  17. Dave

    on   said 

    Hi, a very good, clear article. However, how do we register online, there are no links in the actual document and the one in the comments does not work with any browser.

    If immigration want us to register, why is this not on any of their sites, Main and Local ones?

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Dave, Thank you for your comments, we have pasted the link into the main article now. It does sometime show as a virus on not working but this the link to register the TM30 that we use.

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  18. Jan-Peder

    on   said 

    It took me one week. I read every forum. Also your informaion – very good. As far as know….. I think I understand. This is the law in this country. I have a house and my wife is the householder nr 1.

    1. She, or me have to do the TM30 report within 24 hour. When we arrive att our “yellow book” adress.
    2. For exampel. I arrive in Bangkok friday 14 th (a trip to for example Hong Kong) We stay in BKK for three days and arrives at CNX 17th. Whithin three days WE have to report TM30 att Immigration Airport.
    3. Where? At the disk? Building? I do hope I dont have to go up 5.00 as I have to do when I do my Extension?

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Jan,
      Your basic understanding on the TM30 is correct. It is used to done at the Old Chiang Mai Immigration Building near the Airport but for the foreseeable future it is done at Promendada.. No we are not having to wake up at 5am luckily. It is a pretty simple system really.
      But we still advise that you go for the online login as it much easier in the long run.
      Good luck!

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  19. henriette buist

    on   said 

    hello
    1. i have just been to immigration to register and it seems that the person for the power of attorney needs to be a thai person. is that right?
    2, i’ve tried th link but it doesn’t work. did u use the link today?
    kind regards
    henriette

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      We are now being told that you cannot give the P.O.A to someone that is not Thai. But this is currently only being intermittently enforced. I have just tried the link and it seems to be working fine.

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Penny,
      Sorry I have to be honest and say I do not know for sure. I think you can search on line and there will be the information there.

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  20. alan roy

    on   said 

    Finally, I understand what this is all about. I always knew about the TM30, but nobody ever bothered to comply. Seems like now it must be taken seriously. So, if my Thai wife reports online the first time (assuming she hasn’t done one before which I’m not sure is the case), is she still liable for a 1600 baht fine? How would that work. Or is she required to personally to go airport immigration? It appears that people are getting nailed at their 90 day report. I remember talk of this when I last went to Promenada for the 90 day, but nobody bugged me about that. Thanks so much.

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    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi there, If you can get on the online login then you might skip the fine. But if not then you will probably be fined.

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  21. Ronny Antwerp

    on   said 

    A great informative site, but all of this “registration” issue is still confusing at times.

    I am Belgian and bought a condo in a big building (juristic person) in my name in Jomtien in 2010. I am not permanently living in Thailand and only go there for three months holiday every year, so I live in Belgium most of the year.
    Two Belgian friends of mine want to stay in my condo for one month in November, while I myself am in Belgium.

    I understood that I, as condo owner, have to report my friends at the immigration office within 24 hours of their arrival. Is that correct ? If so, I can’t do that because I am in Belgium.

    Please advise *what* I have to do because time is running out and I want to be in regulation with everything.
    Thank you very much.
    Ronny

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  22. Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

    on   said 

    Dear Ronny,
    Thank you for your question, Firstly I would check with the building management to see if they do the registration for you. If that is the case all you need to do is ask your friends to give a copy of their passport and their arrival card in at reception once they arrive.

    If not then you will probably need the the help of a Thai person to apply for an online registration for the TM30. If this fails then you can give your friends signed copies of the registration form which they can go and hand to immigration themselves as soon as they arrive.

    Like the article says the information and the procedures for the TM30 are changing regularity and we are getting our updates from the Chiang Mai immigration office. So I cannot confirm the Jomtien current requirements.

    Yours sincerely
    Perfect Homes.

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    • Ronny Antwerp

      on   said 

      Thank you very much for a fast reply… please bear with me because it’s all new to me…

      – I can’t find an email address for Metro Jomtien Condotel
      (I tried googling).

      – I don’t have Thai friends, sorry to say

      – so if I understood correctly:
      I (the condo owner) need to download both pages of the TM30 doc (from the links on this page).
      I have to fill in both pages in full which my friends present to immigration office within 24 hours of arriving in Jomtien ? (they stay 3 nights in Bangkok first, so that will the address on their Arrival card)

      Thank you in advance for your reply

      Reply
  23. i just had to deal with this horrible new regulation today. Screwed for 1600 baht and now that i’m reading the details, the full horror is sinking in. So basically, now, every time you leave your registered address, even domestically, even for just one day, you have to go back to immigration and tell them where you are. Am I reading this right? So if you take a trip where you stay one night in different places throughout thailand for a whole week, that’s 7 reports to immigration (not including that youd have to report again once you got home!). This might be the straw that broke the camel’s back, it’s completely untenable. We have to be slaves tied to our registered residences now???

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Omae,

      Basically when travelling around Thailand the hotels register you automatically, so you do not have to worry about this.

      Reply
  24. David

    on   said 

    According to section 38 of the 1979 immigration act, “House owners, heads of household, landlords or managers of hotels
    *** who accommodate foreign nationals on a TEMPORARY basis ***
    who stay in the kingdom legally, must notify the local immigration authorities within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the foreign national.”

    A person on a Retirement Visa lodging for 1 year or more is not temporary basis lodging, is it? So on that basis, I would say , by Thai law, you would not have to register via TM30 if lodging long term. Reporting addresses on arrival card and by the 90 day method surely would be enough and following the rule of law. Also staying in your own condo is not lodging temporarily, surely?

    http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=alienstay
    I don’t make the rules. I just follow them.
    Hav a rippa day everyone.

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi David,
      I agree if you simply follow the rules then life is much simpler. We all give our address on the TM cards on arrival, but often do not stay at the same address so they do in fairness need a way to know where you are.

      Reply
  25. Bob Jacobson

    on   said 

    This reminds me of the time a distant relative living in the former USSR traveled to the US–she was required to advise the relevant Soviet authorities of every move she made. Is Thailand getting like that, too?

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Well lets face it, most more modern countries know where you are anyway, they just track your phones.

      Reply
      • Bob Jacobson

        on   said 

        Thanks. Maybe it’s good then that I just have a flip phone that’s turned off over 99% of the time, and only turned on when I want to make my usual one call a day. I guess Big Brother is now everywhere!

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  26. Rrose

    on   said 

    The 24 hour requirement is not always possible: if you return Friday night, then Immigration will not be open until Monday morning. They must realize that not everyone is registered online, especially if the webpage is in Thai.

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      There has to be some bending of the rules for sure. Most Immigration officers are very friendly and helpful They do their best to help. They are not just trying to find a way to fine everyone that walks through the door.

      Reply
  27. Hi friends! I need your advice.

    I am planning to stay in Thailand for 9-12 months, using ED-visa.
    I suppose I have to provide TM30 to immigration, to avoid troubles with extending my visa (90 days report).

    I will have accomodation, at a friend’s house, on a free basis. My friend isn’t owner, just renting that property.

    Is it possible for him to make a report to immigration? or only the house owner can do that?

    Is it good idea, if my friend does so? Can the immigration ask, why do they accomodate foreigner for free…? Etc… Any idea? Just want to prevent trouble for my friend and me, and make everything right 🙂

    Thanks!

    Reply
  28. I have house in company name .i have blue book . we are 2 falangs living in this house. when we land in Thailand we fill in an arrival card with this address . do we have to still fill in a TM30 form ????.

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Doc,
      For sure you need to register the TM30. I am sorry to say, there are no exceptions!

      Reply
  29. C farrell

    on   said 

    I am in Thailand on holiday I am staying at my wife’s mothers family home do I need to register the address on the TM30 any help please

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Mr Farell,
      Basically yes anyone anywhere has to registered where ever they are staying in Chiang Mai.
      That being said how long are they staying for? If only a few days then off to another hotel, I do not foresee any major issues for them.

      Reply
  30. this on-line reporting system went dead a few days ago and now the contact numbers for Immigration in Chiang Mai are also not working. What is one supposed to do when you have to fill out a TM30 several times a day?

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Pete, I cannot confirm the system has been down. Though if the system is down then you will need to register directly at Immigration.

      Reply
      • Hi, it’s been down for a week at least now, I went to immigration to ask them about it and they said I have to register all of our guests with them on a daily basis – WHAT? over 70km round trip each day with a load of TM30’s, that’s simply not possible to maintain.

        Reply
  31. Alexander

    on   said 

    Hello to everybody,

    1) the former building 3 at the airport immigration in CNX does not exist anymore. All moved to promenada, 3rd floor. Until all the immigration will move back to a new building near the airport end of 2017, 2018 or ….

    2) The so called “retirement visa” is only an extension of stay based on NON-Immigrant status. It is a “temporary” stay with the option of extension but you are not a resident. Thus this does not allow an exception to register by TM30.

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Joe,
      We have to honest here and say, we have no idea!
      Does anyone know the ruling if camping????

      Reply
  32. I stay at two places when in Thailand. My own condo in Bangkok and our house in Prachuap in my wife’s name.
    I use them alternately so the TM 30 is going to be repeatedly many times both ways if I follow the requirements.
    Do you know if we can register two addresses with immigration on visa / extension?
    (Logically you would expect it to be possible, however TIT)
    I have only just extended my retirement visa so I cant try yet for a while.
    Has anybody else tried?

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Joe, Just ask your wife to register both properties online. Currently Bangkok is still very lenient on the TM30, So I am not even sure if they will ask for it.

      Reply
      • Philip

        on   said 

        I am new here on Non-Immigrant O, Multi-entry – retirement visa I guess, arrived in Bangkok 14 days ago.

        I will be travelling in/out of Bangkok on a regular basis, and doubt that I will exceed 90 days in Thailand very often. I will be out again in 10 days in fact.

        1: I own 2 condos, 1 in Bangkok and a holiday condo on Phuket. I have owned and stayed in them for 10 years, but never more than 30 days.
        2: I will mostly in Bangkok though.

        It seems I need to get/do the following things.

        1: Yellow Book (tabian baan?)
        2: Certificate of Residence (need this for back home)
        3: Lodge a TM28 and TM30

        Where do I physically go to get these in Bangkok?
        What will I need?

        I assume some photos, chanod to my condo in Bangkok, passport and TM6. Anything else?

        Reply
  33. Thomas

    on   said 

    Thank you for the clear explanation on what has to be done – like it or not!
    I have tried the link for the online registration in some of the comments without any luck.
    So is there a working online registration system and if can you provide the URL for it?

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi Thomas,
      Thank you for your comments, it appears the online registration is down at this time. We are hoping the same as everyone else that it will be up again soon.
      Kind regards
      Perfect Homes

      Reply
  34. Nathan

    on   said 

    My Thai girlfriend recently registered me as living in her home at Buriram immigration .the officer told her that the fee for this service is 500 baht.no receipt. So now after everytime I stay in a hotel in Thailand we must go back to immigration and pay 500 baht to re register.

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi there,
      We have never had them witness by a lawyer and then never had any issues with our TM30.

      Reply
  35. David

    on   said 

    I have tried several times to access the immigration website that you have posted …. so far without success.
    Wouldn’t it have been more sensible to ensure that this website could actually be downloaded BEFORE enforcing the new regulations in regard to the TM30?

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Yes, the online system is still down. There is no answer as to when it will be back up!

      Reply
  36. John Kendall

    on   said 

    My landlord here in Jomtien just came to visit me today and inform me he had to pay a 1600 fine to Pattaya Immigration because my lady and I went to visit her family in Issan. I was totally baffled by what he was saying. Until I did some online research and found your well written article. So the fact we spent one night at a hotel in Khon Kaen was the trigger.

    He had registered me but that stay unregistered me. Had we just stayed all nights at her family house it would be ok. I can understand the requirement each time I re-enter the country but to stay at a hotel within Thailand? This will discourage domestic tourism. I am rethinking our plans to spend a few days in Hua Hin. Every time I travel I will need to advise my landlord.

    And after one night in a Khon Kaen hotel we spent 4 nights in her family home before returning to Jomtien so I could not comply with the 24 hour rule. Unless her parents reported me staying in their house for 4 days. Is this realistic? Sorry, but this regulation seemed to cross the line of common sense and practicality.

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi John,
      Sorry to hear about the fine, Yes, you have to be very careful, They sometimes turn a blind eye. But it depends on which way the wind is blowing I guess.
      I hope your comments helps other readers avoid the fines.
      Thanks you very much for commenting.

      Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Hi John,
      Sorry to hear that you learnt about the TM30 the hard way. It is a pain in the back side.
      Good luck and I hope you do not have any issues in the future.

      Reply
  37. Daniel Libron Hudson

    on   said 

    I study at Thammasat uni in Rangsit and so stay at a condo nearby. As soon as my Uni informed me about this rule of immigration, when I went to update my ED-visa extension I informed my Condo owner about the rule and filled a form (that the owner signed ) which I took to Pathumthani Immigration. All went well and I got my extension of stay and 90 day too.
    That was in April. I still have no idea whether the condo owner has filled the necessary paperwork that he has to fill to notify about me to Immigration. The 90 days are going to be up on July 2nd. Do you think I will be fined because the landlord had failed to notify the immigration about me staying in the condo?

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  38. WilliamN

    on   said 

    A TM-30 must even be filed if you are a non Thai with a long term marriage visa living in ” your ” own home. Your Thai spouse is responsible.

    Reply
  39. seeall

    on   said 

    Basically, anyone that needed a visa to stay in Thailand needs to be registered.

    NOOOO most get a <28 exemption and not obtain a visa..

    Reply
    • Perfect Homes (Chiang Mai Properties)

      on   said 

      Yes, even people on a tourist visa have to be registered.
      For example anyone running a property on Airbnb should register all their guests even if they are staying only one night.

      Reply
  40. Vijender

    on   said 

    Sir i come bankok oct.2015. then i filled immigration form address my friend married sister bangkok house .but anyone not received me bkk airport .so i go to pattaya and stay in pattaya inn hotel.after 4days i return home india.i am not stay at bangkok.after 2day call me thailand your immigration form& your stay address different why i told my story.now i will come thailand which problem face to me.

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  41. Jean Luc Dabi

    on   said 

    Hello,
    I live in Zire Wongamat Naklua Soi 16… Banglamung Pattaya.
    Building A, my Chinese neighbors is ******* and rent for short term to Chinese people. The rules of the building forbidden to short rental.
    It is possible to have immigration officers check on them as they are very noisy and every week we see new face as our neighbors come from this ******.
    I believe to do many short time rental and don’t have the right, and don’t report tenant to immigration office.

    Thanks to check on that as it is very inconvenient for us, my wife is Thai, she’s 6 months pregnant and need rest and calm.

    Thank you…

    Reply

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